The truce established the boundaries of the Hostile and DHARMA territories as areas of five kilometers surrounding each camp. The Initiative's submarine provided a new means of travel to the mainland, and the Others used it to recruit new members to their community, using their front company Mittelos Bioscience. The Others also permanently occupied various DHARMA Initiative stations. However, after using Michael to get Jack, Kate and Sawyer ("Live Together, Die Alone, Part 2"), it was revealed that their society was far more sophisticated. ("The Hunting Party")  ("Three Minutes"), At this point, the Others maintained a ruse that they were in fact very primitive, using huts and ragged clothing to augment this. Prior to Ben's term, the leadership of the Others seemed to be shared between Charles Widmore and Eloise Hawking, who had a "complicated" love life together. I’d like to go myself.”. Making lists. ("The Man Behind the Curtain") ("Through the Looking Glass, Part 1"), Following the Purge, the Others assumed full control of a number of facilities belonging to the DHARMA Initiative. They have various means of off-Island transportation, including a submarine (taken from the DHARMA Initiative), a yacht, a motor boat which they gave to Michael, and Desmond's sailboat (which they took from the survivors). THE VAULT OF WALT is a highly-praised recently-published book featuring more than 450 pages of previously untold stories about Walt Disney, the Disney theme parks, the Disney films as well as many out-of-the-ordinary and forgotten stories of Disney history. The Others have access to a variety of weapons, including firearms, tasers, explosives, bolas, and U.S. army knives. Uncle Walt’s worlds defined twentieth-century American culture. When his actions lead to Hank's death, the realization that his family is in danger specifically because of him hits him hard. ("Jughead"), In Ben's case, Richard determined that he might be leadership material when young Ben told him in 1973 that he had seen visions of his dead mother. So, my personal theory is that the Others took Walt because he was on Jacob’s candidate list, but Ben’s plans for Walt changed when they figured out just how “special” he was. The Arrow, a DHARMA Initiative station whose primary purpose was "to develop defensive strategies and gather intelligence on the island's hostile indigenous population", had members with "a specific area of expertise". In 1961, Richard presented a variety of seemingly random objects to Locke, including a compass, a knife, a baseball glove, a "Book of Laws," a vial of granules, and a comic book. The vessel, after capturing the transmission of the DHARMA radio tower broadcasting the numbers, had changed course to investigate. According to Benjamin Linus, the leader still has to answer to Jacob. ("Dead Is Dead"), It was around this time that Benjamin Linus, a DHARMA Initiative workman who had defected to the Others and supported them in their purge of the Initiative's personnel, emerged as new leaders of the newly formed Others, replacing Charles Widmore by establishing some sort of communion with Jacob. The Others have committed a large number of assaults during confrontations. Some of those taken would later be seen at the Hydra station, including Cindy, Zack and Emma, suggesting that those kidnapped may have joined the Others. Under Ben's directives, they established themselves at the Barracks, living in the suburban-like houses previously occupied by the DHARMA employees, with hot water, electricity, and other modern conveniences. The Man in Black said that the Others thought their purpose was to protect the island from him. ("Sundown") Later, those of the Others who chose to follow The Man in Black were mostly killed by Widmore's mortar attack; the survivors of this event went into hiding in the jungle. Walt’s other two older brothers, Ray and Herbert, served in the Army, in the newly-formed American Expeditionary Corps. For example, when attempting to abduct survivors, there were multiple skirmishes at the Tailies camp, as well as the final beach camp battle between members of the Others and Flight 815 survivors. According to the Man in Black, those who were not killed in the attack scattered into the jungle. ("Abandoned")  ("The Man Behind the Curtain"). Another part of the leadership selection process, at least in some cases, seems to consist of the soon-to-be leader killing his or her own father-- an initiation rite of sorts. He was also able to move hostages to different areas of the house including the kitchen. The presence of the Initiative on the Island apparently did not affect the Others' activities in the outside world, as Richard Alpert, who contacted John Locke in 1972 through his science teacher by offering him a place at a summer camp sponsored by Mittelos Laboratories, ("Cabin Fever") was seen on the Island a year later during his first encounter with Benjamin Linus. On the other hand, someone much closer to Walt Disney, his daughter, Diane wrote in 1972: “There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that my father, Walt Disney, wished to be frozen. ("Enter 77"), In late 1973, Ben ventured into the jungle and encountered Richard Alpert. ("Recon"). On September 22nd, 2004, Oceanic Flight 815 crashed onto the Island. The full extent of the monitoring at the Barracks is not known. Aside from Ben, who finally encountered Jacob in "The Incident, Part 2", the only Other definitively established as having firsthand communication with Jacob is Richard Alpert. The ones who chose to leave the Temple, including Cindy, defected to the Man in Black's side. The abilities he showed while in Room 23 clearly frightened them. 2) Walt (far right) in France with other Red Cross Ambulance volunteers. Get information on Disney World restaurants and other Disney dining options. To Neal Gabler, author of Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination, and a consultant to Walt Disney, an NEH-funded film airing on PBS on September 14 and 15, Disney was a “driven, creative, self-absorbed, perfectionist visionary.” ("A Tale of Two Cities") These people would then be kidnapped by the Others at night. ("The Other 48 Days") When the DHARMA Initiative established itself on the Island and came into conflict with the Others, it labeled them as "hostile indigenous people" ("LaFleur") or simply "the Hostiles", (Access: Granted) a term eventually adopted by Desmond Hume after spending three years with Kelvin Inman, the last living DHARMA member present on the Island. Walt Disney is the famous voice and creator of Mickey Mouse and the founder of Disneyland. Others wanted to ride on Walt’s backyard train the Carolwood Pacific. I was gone and he picked up the truck. According to Jacob, it is the Man in Black's belief that all people are inherently corruptible, whereas Jacob wished to show him that people could know the difference between right and wrong without his interference. I know being on my own at an early age has made me more self-reliant…”. ("Dead Is Dead") ("There's No Place Like Home, Part 3"). Antagonists of the Oceanic 815 survivors, the DHARMA Initiative, the US Army, the Kahana Crew and Widmore's team. Some prominent Others under Ben were displeased with his leadership. They had both communication with the outside world (via the Flame) and regular supply dispatches and transport to the outside world (via the Galaga); however, both of these were destroyed by John Locke in Season 3. Richard seemed very intrigued, and told Ben that if he was patient, he might have a place in the Others' society one day. (WARNING SPOILERS) why does jesse and walt hate each other in breaking bad? A white truck loaded with beans and sugar to the devastated area in Soissons. Juliet was punished for being a traitor by being marked. It emerged that the people on the freighter planned to kill everyone on the Island after extracting Ben, and the result was the death of all the freighter's soldiers at the hands of Richard Alpert and the Others. Richard explained that he was ordered to carry out the attack, probably referring to Jacob. The Others also attempted to kidnap all the pregnant women among the survivors. The truce was brought into effect by the Letter of Truce, written by Horace Goodspeed and amended by Richard Alpert, which stipulated that "the DHARMA Initiative and the indigenous island inhabitants, desiring to bring about cessation of hostilities on the island, [...] call upon all authorities and leaders concerned to order a cessation of all actions of armed force in perpetuity going forward from this date." Karl answered "better than yours." © Jim Korkis, all rights reserved. Although Ben claimed that he would not be able to return to the Island after moving it, he eventually did, and killed Jacob at the urging of the. Published with permission. ("The Man Behind the Curtain"), In 1974, the truce was threatened when a conflict involving two members of the Others and a husband and wife pair of DHARMA Initiative members, Amy and Paul, resulted in the death of the latter. ("Whatever Happened, Happened") Richard's involvement with the leader-selection process also gives him a measure of control over the Island's leadership, even when he himself is not the leader. Over forty people were killed, and among the notable fatalities was Horace Goodspeed. Walt spoke only positively of his time in France and told his daughter Diane: “The things I did during those eleven months I was overseas added up to a lifetime of experience. ("Whatever Happened, Happened") After having healed Ben at the Temple, Richard returned him to the the Others' camp, where he was confronted by a furious Charles Widmore for having brought a member of the Initiative, even a dying child, to the Temple. They were monitored using video surveillance, and Kate and Sawyer were forced to do manual labor at a location called the Quarry. ("Raised by Another") At the tail-section camp, however, Goodwin was much more successful, and over a dozen survivors were taken in total. The next day, Richard Alpert suggested to Locke that he use Sawyer to kill Cooper. The Others' response was to send spies to infiltrate the two main groups of survivors. While being initially scared of Richard, Ben eventually explained that he was looking for his dead mother, of whom he had had visions. Juliet was left behind. It depended on the situation. Dogen shared little information, even extremely important information, like the threat of the Man in Black, with Ben, the then-Leader at the time. Adam, Amelia, Harper and Vanessa presumably died in the. After Walt there would be no one to protect his family. After Sayid killed Dogen, thus allowing the Man in Black to enter the Temple in his monster form, and then Lennon, while the remaining Others were killed by the MiB in his smoke form. “I resent the limitations of my own imagination.” Every action, every fulfilled dream, and every pursued passion. Walt Disney is a famous American artist, director, producer and creator of a series of full-length animated films that won him worldwide fame. The Others waited as the two men entered the statue. This is supported by the fact that Jacob chose Richard as his intermediary between himself and the people he brought to the island, suggesting Richard was always the one who visited Jacob - not the leader. For me, the fly is a manifestation of the beginnings of the crack in Walt's moral character. For instance, Alex was kidnapped as a baby from Danielle, as was Claire whom they wanted for her baby. God would rather that we be focused on the healing miracle of salvation through Jesus Christ instead of focusing on other healings and/or miracles. Based on Richard's reaction and those of the Temple Dwellers, it seems the Others or at least their leaders are familiar with The Man in Black. ive been watching breaking bad and im up to date, i just didnt understand how jesse and walt got on bad terms? Biography Early life: 1901–1920. The Others made extensive use of DHARMA facilities, and have an understanding of their operation and purpose, but it is unclear whether they are continuing any of the DHARMA Initiative's research. ("The Incident, Part 2") ("Ab Aeterno") The producers of Lost have compared the relationship between Richard and the Leader of the Others to that between the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama. All Others are taught to speak Latin. how did this whole beef erupt? The Others have committed a number of crimes against other groups on the Island. Walt Whitman was born on May 31, 1819, in West Hills, on Long Island, New York. We're [...] here for more important reasons." His achievements in the world of animation garnered him multiple awards and international fame. If the broadcast of the miracle would draw people in to hear His teaching, all to the good. Why do they take blood samples from kidnapped individuals? They kidnapped Sawyer … So they let me off.”. Ben's term as the leader came sometime after the Purge, when he ousted and banished previous leader Charles Widmore. "Solitary" The Others also established themselves at the Hydra, although the purpose and subject of their activities at this DHARMA station is a mystery: Karl mentioned the Others working on "projects", ("Stranger in a Strange Land") while many members were building a runway, ("The Glass Ballerina") an initiative ordered by Jacob. ("LA X, Part 1") Richard Alpert, leader of the Others at the time, claimed to have given the soldiers "the opportunity to leave the island peacefully", but his proposition was rejected. “And then I went back and my truck was gone…I didn't know what had happened…I got a train into Paris. They actively recruit people from the outside world to join them on the Island (Dr. Juliet Burke, for example), and, by 2004, very few of their members had been born on the Island due the deaths of their pregnant women from an as-yet uncured medical affliction that plagued the Others some time after 1977. ("Dead Is Dead"), The next day, an armed Daniel Faraday burst into the the Others' camp, asking to speak with Eloise. After being stabbed by Ben, Jacob whispered, "they're coming," to which the Man in Black responded by kicking him into the fire. I got up part way and I burned out a bearing on the truck, close to a watchman's shed…So, the orders were never to leave your truck. A caricature of The Kaiser usually took the brunt of Walt’s youthful fervor, as did people who Walt felt were “slackers” since they hadn’t joined up to fight the Huns. (The World of the Others) Not all Others knew about the existence of the Temple. Why: Some people will say that Walt was always heading for his death, but that’s not true. Ben handed Locke a knife while the rest of the Others gathered to watch, but Locke could not bring himself to kill Cooper. However, the leader must always answer to Jacob. The Others responded enthusiastically to this new approach. Walt was also held captive and made to take tests before Michael arranged for his release, during which time he himself was imprisoned. Walt and a friend, Russell Maas, tried to enlist, but Maas was rejected because his eyesight was poor, and Walt didn’t want to go without his friend. ("Enter 77") Benjamin Linus, a DHARMA Initiative workman who defected to the Others, would state: "The DHARMA Initiative. After Locke returned to the Others with Cooper's body, they took him much more seriously, and not long after that, Locke became their next leader. He serves in an advisory role, and he has claimed to be outside the jurisdiction of Eloise and Widmore. And Walt had to ensure that there is no one threatning his family after he is gone. Well 1st in Rabid Dog, Walt just wanted to talk. Why them? While talking about his community, Ben once told Locke, "Most of these people you see—I brought them here", ("The Man Behind the Curtain") indicating that the majority of present-day Others come from off the Island. ("The Man Behind the Curtain"). ("The Variable"), On November 17th, 1988, a 7-months pregnant Danielle Rousseau, along with the other five members of her science expedition, shipwrecked onto the Island. He was the second son of Walter Whitman, a house-builder, and Louisa Van Velsor. Locke was able to enter the house without being detected. She and a group of Losties were gassed by the Others but left within the perimeter of the Barracks. He was in the brig. It was such a valuable experience that I feel that if we have to send our boys into the Army we should send them even younger than we do. (Official Lost Podcast). Find classics and new Disney restaurants for the best dining experiences. ("There's No Place Like Home, Part 2") The Others also had knowledge of the Pearl and the Orchid, although it is unknown to what extent they were used. Editor's note: Today is the anniversary of Walt Disney's death, in 1966 at the age of 65. ("Dead Is Dead"), The Others did not form a pure society. As seen in "The Cost of Living" during Colleen's funeral, the Others' funeral process is very unique. ("A Tale of Two Cities"). ("The Incident, Part 1"), Ben exiled Charles Widmore from the Island, putting an end to his three-decades rule. Walt believed in himself and his dreams and could therefore convince others to believe in him too. In his dying words, Faraday claimed to be Eloise's son and accused her of sending him to the Island knowing she would kill him. Then Jesse ratted him out to Hank + inevitably caused Hank's death (in walt's perspective), so he wanted Jesse dead (this time not to protect his family, but for revenge). Indeed, in an US Weekly interview in the June 12, 2006 issue, Lost writer Damon Lindelof was asked what it means that the Others are good guys, and he replied with a question: "Who has killed more people since they went to the Island, our guys or the Others?". Over time, Ben fell out of favor with Jacob and became convinced that his duty was to move the Island, however, he was intern exiled. Jacob says he wants people to know the difference between right and wrong without being told. The Leader of the Others seems to have limited jurisdiction over the Temple, which was commanded by Dogen, the Temple Master. Horace Goodspeed, a DHARMA mathematician and leader of DHARMA Initiative on the Island, admitted in 1973 that the Initiative was not "exactly sure" who the Others were. https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Others?oldid=1120856, Ben was a ruthless and manipulative Leader, although he claimed that everything he did was for the benefit of the Island. One of the many urban legends that surrounded Walt after his death was that he was dishonorably discharged. In 1867, Richard came to the Island by way of the Black Rock, and was led to Jacob. ("Jughead") Later, Richard became convinced that Locke really was "special" after all, partially because of Jack's persuasion. Ben was shown to also have some degree of control over the Monster, summoning it after Alex was murdered. Instead of killing Rousseau, Ben took her baby, warning her, "If you want your baby to live, every time you hear whispers, you run the other way." Ben brought Alex to the Others' camp, where he was confronted by an aging Widmore for not having followed his orders, claiming they were in the Island's best interests. Keep the questions open-ended and neutral: do not suggest an answer. However, most legends have some basis in fact, and here is the true story as told by Walt himself: “It was in February…they sent me with a white truck. The Others use rings of black ash to keep out (or possibly in) the smoke monster. However, his experience only increased his affection and respect for the American men and women in uniform and when World War II started almost two decades later, Walt committed all the resources of his Studio to helping the war effort. Richard then asked Locke to choose the object that "already belong[ed] to [him]". While en route, Locke quietly convinced Ben to kill Jacob, a deed Ben had not actually decided to go through with until he arrived. The most specific evidence of the leadership selection process is Richard's testing of young Locke. ("The Man Behind the Curtain"), Regardless of the initial relationship the DHARMA Initiative had with the Others, the situation rapidly deteriorated into military conflict, and the Others became known to the DHARMA Initiative personnel as the "Hostiles". An influenza epidemic struck Chicago and Walt became so sick he was released to go home so his parents could take care of him, since so many people going to the hospitals were dying. Favourite answer. For example, Ben was a person who joined the Hostiles, betraying DHARMA. So, rid your mind of all limits and negativity and begin to think BIG. The Others appear to only have one leader at any given time, and said leader performs a number of duties: ensuring the well-being of the Others, protecting the Island against threats from outside, and (allegedly) talking to and carrying out the orders of Jacob. Hugo ReyespreviouslyJacobJohn LockeBen LinusCharles WidmoreEloise HawkingRichard Alpert It is uncertain if the Others continued, altered or abandoned the research of the Initiative, although Ben later referred to all DHARMA Initiative experiments as "silly". They said, 'Yes.' Later, using Sayid as his messenger, the Man in Black was able to convince some of the Others to leave the Temple upon by telling them all that Jacob was dead and that there was no reason for any of them to stay, and that death would await them should they choose to do so. This suggests that the Temple may be an autonomous community beyond the Leader's control. This question originally appeared on Quora. One of Alpert's notes, "Our willingness to allow your presence should not be mistaken as continued opportunities for diplomacy," indicates that in Alpert's view, the Others were in a position of power over the DHARMA Initiative. 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