How many rebellions were there? EVIL'S ULTIMATE END. Also, the Lord pronounced, It is a result of the massacre by Saul and welcome classification because Saul indeed destroyed the Gibeonites in the Bible. This is a bit unusual. So he brought up the bones of Saul and the bones of Jonathan his son from there; and they gathered the bones of those who had been hanged. Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. I think he was very low. Evidently, this is what Saul and most of his family was like, except Jonathan. How does this all connect with Ezekiel chapter 18? The two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul ( v.8 ) It is after Absalom's rebellion. Because he may have been still depressed by Absalom's death. The problem was that God had not told Saul to do this, God had told Joshua to do that. Numbers 35:29-33 And these things shall be a statute of judgment to you throughout your generations in all your dwellings. God took the initiative in this matter, by afflicting the nation of Israel with a famine because the house of Saul had put the Gibeonites to death. ", Or even after two years. He keeps his word even to his own disadvantage and does not change it [for his own benefit] (Psalm 15:1, 4; AMP). Things were going wrong. Back to the Gibeonitesmost people probably did not remember it. They did what is recalled in verses 3 through 6 above. At the request of the Gibeonites themselves, seven sons of Saul were executed ( II Sam. It must have been a satisfactory solution from Gods point of view, because he sent the rain on the land after the measures had been taken. To re-establish peace between the two tribes, David fulfills the Gibeonites request to sacrifice two heirs of Israels throne, Sauls sons and grandsons. . So this zeal may not have carried good connotations (cf John 2:17) it was not zeal for God but zeal for man, an ongoing problem with Saul. And the Lord said, There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death. 2 So the king called the Gibeonites and He just simply rolled over. They haven't been put in Kish's sepulcher yet. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. He gets kicked down the societal ladder for his sin, and it takes three or four generations for the family to recover. Verse 1 did say that it was "Saul and his bloodthirsty house" who had massacred the Gibeonites. Something is wrong, David. They decided to fight with the Gibeonites and teach them a lesson. 5. Joshua and that generation did not do their entire job, and so they were stuck. And we bear the guilt with them for that. And these men, they need to be buried. Saul committed a great crime against Gibeon and the Gibeonites. Saul, after having disqualified himself from being king, sought to ingratiate himself with God by killing Canaanites, including an unrecorded massacre of Gibeonites. This could indicate that the sons of Saul were actively implicated in this attempted genocide, although we cannot tell for sure as the details of this awful event are not recorded. Good question. This is very, very important for this vignette in King David's life. However, this chapter drops a few hints about it. Two years is a long time. You do not know. Please ensure your answer MEETS all our guidelines. Seven of Sauls descendants were hanged as a result. God required atonement to be made. BATTLE AGAINST ENVY AND JEALOUSY Saul tried to get back his throne from God by doing what he thought was right, what he thought was zealous for God, by getting rid of the foreignersincluding the Gibeonitesthat were among them. When the Gibeonites heard that the other nations were going to attack them, they sent a message to Joshua and the people, Help! What should we get out of this? This indicates that God was not pleased, whatsoever, with how this situation was resolved by David. They were probably innocent of this particular crime. The rains did not come after the Days of Unleavened Bread when these seven men were executed. ", If you are on your spiritual game, and famine is occurring in your land, do you wait three years until thousands may have died? He wanted to go do something else. There was a great deal of turmoil in Israel leading up to this time. It only says that God heeded the prayer of the land. It is the time of the beginning of the barley harvest. WebThe alliance with the Gibeonites lasted for centuries, until Saul - in his zeal (21, 2) - decided that the ancient covenant was no longer binding. The Gibeonites were a very shrewd bunch of people. How many wars were fought? So they thought, "Hmm. The scriptures are not very definitive as to why. When we read the history of skirmishes and battles between the Gibeonites and Israelites we get a How far away was Gilgal from Gibeon? With a careful reading and a bit of thought, you will begin to raise some questions. Now, turn to the episode of King David, which we introduced. but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. What have they done? You had only black and white television if you had television. And David was told what Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, the concubine of Saul, had done. King David was perhaps the only converted person in the entire nationmaybe besides the high priest of the time, but we do not know. Numbers 35:34 "Therefore do not defile the land which you inhabit, in the midst of which I dwell; for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.'". The famine was a punishment for Sauls violation of the covenant, made with the Gibeonites back during the days of Joshua. II Samuel 21:1-14 Now there was a famine in the days of David for three years, year after year; and David inquired of the L ORD. Can we assume that God was in any way propitiated at the conclusion of this story? So, he kept his own covenant, but he did not go any further to figure out from God's law to know what should be done in this situation. They knew! However, we have a great deal of trouble identifying with or understanding pure, innocent and perfect Galahad. To put it in a more modern time setting, a lot of people prefer Batman (the dark one), or Spiderman (the geek), to Superman for the very same reasons. They have a discussion in the next few verses, and many Israelites want to go ahead and kill these Gibeonites for what they did. This was a long time ago. Up and down your family tree, sin does not go. (4:10). So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. The Gibeonites actually lived only a few miles from Jericho, the Twelve Tribes' designated entry point to Palestine. by LeRoy Gardenier Therefore, they arrive in the camp of Israel, and say, "Where's your leader? Matt 24:4/Mk 13:5/Lk 21:8. Notice that I Kings begins not many chapters after this. WebWhich city did Saul destroy when he found that its priests had given David's men provision? Saul had four sons. * Jonathanhe befriended David, died with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Abinadabdied with Saul on Mount Gilboa * Malchishuadied with Joshua did try to make lemonade out of his lemons. The Israelites had taken an oath concerning them, but in his zeal for Israel and Judah, Saul had sought to kill them.) Obviously, having seen what happened to Jericho and Ai, they knew God and Israel were serious. God says very clearly that Israel was to conquer them, destroy them, and make no covenant with them. What Saul did was commit another presumptuous sin. There were no cell phones. Then they replied, It was Saul who planned to destroy us, to keep us from having any place at all in Israel. Only after three days did they discover that their "far-distant" allies were really next-door neighbors! 0 responses It comes as a snare, Christ says, on everybody. Why didnt Abraham bargain with God when it came to Isaac being offered as a burnt offering like he did when it came to Sodom and Gomorrah? So, it is very likely that these men were murdered both as retribution and as sacrifices to some pagan god to spite the God of the Bible, and therefore, Israel. Jonathan and Saul led the Instead, they told a story that either ignored the truth completely or, at least, shaded the truth in such a way that it was full of guile and deceit. Or as the Gibeonites said Saul consumed them and tried to destroy them a people Israel had entered into a covenant with 400 years earlier. It was not just Saul, but other members of his family. Another thing that God said to do was not done. God told Joshua to get rid of all these foreigners in the land. This does not make any sense. It is very evident from verse 4 that somebody offered money, either from the palace or from the family of Saul. There is more space given to David's flaws than anyone else in the whole Bible. (Mark 6:20). They buried the bones of Saul and Jonathan his son in the country of Benjamin in Zelah, in the tomb of Kish his father. He asked me, "How does this incident square with what God says in Ezekiel 18:19-20?". That is not what it says here. No one killed king David. He died of old age, at the age of three score and ten (70 years). His son Solomon succeeded him. You might be thinking of God's correction may come a He says that He visits the iniquity upon them. "No, we don't do things like that in Israel. We have to understand that the people of the land represent the things we need to overcomeour human nature and our problems; the world and its pulls to its ways; and Satan and all the ways that he tries to manipulate us. 2Samuel 21:1, There is bloodguilt on Saul and on his house, because he put the Gibeonites to death.. Then there are things of degeneracy. Community answers are sorted based on votes. I do not think that King David thought through the implications of this matter very well. I think he was looking at Adonijah and Solomon, and seeing the positioning for the throne, and he just wanted to throw up his handsflee like some bird (Psalm 139). King David was probably huffing and puffing, "I can't lift this thing! Should the explanation in Genesis on how God created plants before the sun affect the understanding of creation? It looks to me like he tried to work out a political solution rather than a righteous one. . So he said, "Whatever you say, I will do for you." No silver or gold from that house. The Gibeonites presented themselves to the invading Israelites, not as nearby neighbors, but as distant foreigners who lived in a far-off land. WebThe consequences of Israels covenant with the Gibeonites were not short-term. They were probably in middle age, 45-60. He could have done whatever he wanted. The stories of such people like Abel, Seth, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and on through the chapter give us hope that like them we can overcome and be assured of entering the Kingdom of God. There were not very many of them left. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments. WebMany centuries later (the period from the exodus of Israel to the reign of Saul is generally considered to be about 400 years), Saul came to the throne in Israel. WebThe LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. Gibeon was situated very close to Gibeah the home town of Sauls family. Joshua 9:14 is the key to Israel's problem. This traditional doctrine, as heard in a Catholic or Protestant church, would say that this sin of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden rests upon us still. Perhaps the Scriptures are contrasting the faithless actions of Saul and his house in regard to the covenant with the Gibeonites, with the faithful actions of David in regard to the covenant with Jonathan. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. David represents usJoe Church Membertrue Christians in a time of spiritual famine, much like what Amos describes in Amos 8:11, with the famine of the word. Exodus 21:12-13 "He who strikes a man so that he dies shall surely be put to death. The latter believed that Saul's desire was to destroy them utterly. He did not perform any miracle, or any other thing to show that He was happy with the way that things turned out. VERSE 2. WebThese lists are not concerned with the Gibeonites at Gibeon, but with the Benjaminite group which came to settle at Gibeon in the course of time. I Samuel 14:52 Now there was fierce war with the Philistines all the days of Saul. The midrash states that when Saul learned of this, he was angry with his daughter and demanded of her: Why did you deceive me and let my enemy escape? If the Gibeonites brought guile and deceit into the land; it was Saul who set the example for deep and devastating The world's arsenal is growing daily in material strength and sophisticated intimidation. Based on this principle, I think we can be confident that justice was carried out in this very nasty incident, even though we are not told all the details of what happened. Their special, if dishonest, dealings with the leaders of Israel gained them a notoriety that most of the tribes and clans of the ancient Mid-East never attained. Gibeon is only a few miles mostly north of Jerusalem. This is certainly not the David of Psalm 34, where he wrote. If, in the event the Israelis ever came their way, they would be servants to the people of Israel. As mentioned earlier, there was the rebellion of Absalom. God punished the whole nation for breaking the covenant. It would be the equivalent of an event somewhere between the Korean War and the Vietnam War. You didn't do it. Later, during a wasting famine, David, attempting a political rather than a righteous solution, yielded to the Gibeonites' request that descendants of Saul be hanged to avenge the slaughter. What we do inherit of their sin is consequences. Something is wrong. He sees the hearts of men and the hidden actions of men. So the famine continued for another half a year. Rizpah, Lord Alfred Tennyson in 1878. Moreover you shall take no ransom for the life of a murderer who is guilty of death, but he shall surely be put to death [he cannot buy his way out]. What I am trying to show you by going through these different places is that there is plenty of law that King David could have looked back on. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation" Psalm 24:4-5. WebDavid serves Saul with music on his harp Nov 24, 1025. Only in one sense, there was a fall of man, but certainly not in the traditional sense. Notice verse 2 says that Saul tried to strike them down in his zeal (also means jealously or envy) for the people of Israel and Judah. But, very few people can relate to sinless perfection. Some interesting similarities to New Testament times occur to me: The fact that David made a covenant with Jonathan regarding Jonathans house (1 Sam 20:14-16), would take precedence over all other reasons not to give up Mephibosheth, I would suppose. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. Throughout the Scriptures warnings of spiritual dangers are signaled by the flash cards of attention getting words like: "Take heed" or "Consider". They looked to Him and were radiant, and their faces were not ashamed. Spiritual Strongholds (Part Two): Faithful Trust. There were big problems, and one of them was the consequences and effects of Saul and his bloodthirsty house. But, he did not. This was obviously later in his life and reign. However, there was not. Davids choice of victims reflects at least the covenant between him and Jonathan, if not also the one between him Why were genealogies so important to Israel? God revealed that this calamity happened because of "Saul and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites ." The time had passed. And she did not allow the birds of the air to rest on them by day nor the beasts of the field by night. This is what we have to learnunderstanding the distinction between guilt for sin, and the lingering effects of sin. and for his bloody house. WebSaul slew the Gibeonites, not simply as the son of Kish, but as the king of Israel, and therefore involved all Israel with him in the violation of the national oath; and hence, until the evil should be put away by the execution of the immediate offender or his representatives, all Israel must suffer. I do not know if that was the case, but he had just gone through Absalom's rebellion, and Sheba's rebellion, and maybe he allowed that to cross his mind too. So they fell, all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest. We do know the Gibeonites were cutters of wood and drawers of water for the altar of God the tabernacle was at Gibeon. They had remembered it for 40 or 50 years. Is there something I'm missing? How many died in sicknesses? Some unfinished business here needs to be taken care of. The prophet Zechariah asks a question that is forever pertinent to all spiritual considerations and decisions: "For who hath despised the day of small things?" The Lord told them they had made a commitment to these people and they had to stand by it. They made their dust-covered clothes to look worn and ragged as if they had been on the road for many days, even months. What have you been thinking about?". During the time of the judges, the Israelites had repeatedly turned away, leaving them corrupt and faithless. [And the answer is] Because the son has done what is lawful and right, and has kept all My statutes and observed them, he shall surely live. They agree to the death of seven of Saul's descendants. They wanted blood by putting to death seven male descendants to die for the crimes of that house against the Gibeonites. That is basically how it was. I am putting this all together from history. See? And it would have been done quickly and easily. God has torn the kingdom from you. The words "thirty" and "forty" are not in the original Hebrew. These conflicting views on Saul would continue long past the biblical era and into modern times. ( v.1 ) So God sent a famine to punish a kingdom for something that a former king supposedly did. The verb is used in this sense with respect to Joshua's action toward the Gibeonites in Joshua 9:27, where cultic servitude is involved ("for the altar of the Lord"). But, the big thing was that he did not consult God about what he should do about it. It was certainly alive and well in Israel. A little further down, we read: II Samuel 21:2 . Deuteronomy 19:7-10 Therefore I command you, saying, 'You shall separate three cities for yourself.' Forty years, at least, has passed, and had they been involved in it back when Saul was still kinglet us say they were 18 to 20 years oldthese men involved in this massacre, should they still be alive, might be 60, 65, or even 70 years old. The Jewish Encyclopedia asserts that one group of rabbis felt that Saul's punishment at God's hands is a sign of his weak moral character whose only virtue was being tall and handsome. Psalm 34:4-10 I sought the LORD, and He heard me, and delivered me from all my fears. I also want you to see how warlike Saul was. He tried to come up with a compromise, and that was basically, "Whatever you want, you can have." Verse 5 does not say that the guilt of a person extends to his great-great grandchildren. King Saul exhibited that hubris, that overweening pride in his own decisions and that unfounded confidence in his own good judgment that he brought certain and lasting disaster upon his own dynasty. This was history now. Saul, after having disqualified WebWhen God called Saul to be king, Israel was on the verge of collapse. Deep and long lasting trouble for both parties - both the Israelites and the Gibeonites - was the fruit of this clever, but calamitous deception. They had a more bloody and violent systemwhich often led to blood feuds that may not ever end until a whole family or generation was gone. What would be some verses from the Bible to save a marriage? Think about this for a moment. He was far from God during this time. Saul became a bit strange in the head after this, if you will remember. lorraine goode. About two years ago, Barry Watson, our lone member in Namibia, wrote me an email message in which this incident was at the heart of it. Now the Gibeonites were not of the children of Israel, but of the remnant of the Amorites; the children of Israel had sworn protection to them, but Saul had sought to kill them in his zeal for the children of Israel and Judah. 4. Most people living in modern, Western culture better identify with flawed heroes, rather than perfect heroes. And the LORD answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites. King David came at it from a position of weakness, not of one who knew God's law and could answer these people from spiritual strength. Wherever he turned, he harassed them. This is a major reason why the church of God does not subscribe to the traditional doctrine of "The Fall of Man." Their deceit, Israel's lack of vigilance and Saul's deep delusion caused God's people centuries of grief and embarrassment. Christ says, Luke 21:34-35 "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. However there is nothing in the text that indicates he did this. It is not pretty when we allow the people of the land to dictate to us. In other words, we want them to be just like us. David asked the Gibeonites what punishment would satisfy them and atone for (cover) Sauls sin of murder. Israel and Judah," who may have fretted at the inconvenience of having the Gibeonites among them. God sees behind the scenes. The children of Israel gathered and went across the Jordan River, and set up camp at Gilgal. Spiritual virtues and qualities are largely unseen yet are more real and potent in lasting effects than the most formidable nuclear pile. Leviticus 26:18-20 And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins. Then they went back and took Ai. And then King David inquired of the Lord. 21:1-11 ). The Bible helps us in this way, because it is full of examples of flawed heroes of faith. They had advance warning. Therefore, there was a different system of justice than what the Gentiles were used to. * 1 Samuel 18:12 KJV And Saul was afraid of David, because the LORD was with him, and was departed from Saul. * 1 Samuel 18:15 KJV Wherefore when S However, if he did not lie in wait, but God delivered him into his hand, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee.". So the king called the Gibeonites and spoke to them. Her actions made David realize that he had violated another of God's commands by leaving the bodies of Saul, Jonathan, and the seven other sons unburied. There is no record in the Bible of Saul killing Gibeonites. During Davids reign, the people of Gibeon demanded that all of Sauls children be put to death so as to atone for a severe famine. . Over the years I've urged our Fellowship to check out, investigate and take to heart such biblical alarms. The "Man of Steel" is just too perfect, too smart, and too invincible. Lets be clear from the very beginning, David was kind to Mephibosheth for his father Jonathans sake (2 Samuel 9:1). Mephibosheth was only five ye He has mercy, and holds the curses to just a few generations, but He allows the results of doing righteousness to last forever. They are two separate things. There was no negotiation; there was no calling them on anything. On the other hand, when people do well, like Abraham, and they live God's way of life, this allows God the leeway to show mercy unto thousands of generations of people. Moreover, Samuel said, "What have you done? He attempted the genocide of He is able to judge justly. Notice the timing and the manner of the execution. 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